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For me at least, the MPC Renaissance was a bit of a white (grey?) elephant, but these do look a bit more interesting... if the software is any good.

Saintjoe, I guess it's gonna be your duty to collect them all for some soundsandgear.com reviews!

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like pokemon!

nah, I been telling peeps about these two since the Ren dropped, as I think they will do the best. I really like the look of the studio, it's no maschine, and that's fine.

I think the fly will be nice with the ipad but I need a better picture, I'll see them next week at namm though!

I think in the end it will be a software rather than a hardware consideration.
Can the APC host VST/US plugins and is there an equivalent to the controller editor to map the hardware to other software?
Enjoy NAMM

oh yes, I've been saying it's always been that, software will tell the story, 

hardware will be nothing without software to match for sure, and going up against software giants is a risky move given their history of less than stellar software, but maybe they got some new developers in there 

Judging by these pics, it would seem the MPC Studio is more on par w/ the Maschine.  Considering the comparable size of the actual hardware.  But being a step down from the flagship model, I'm guessing it should actually be sized up against the Mikro.

Seeing this, I'm betting the Studio pricing will be about the same as Maschine.  While the Renaissance will be much more at least a grand<two.

yep, that's the pricing. Ren is 999, studio will be around the 499/599 mark, the ipad version is 299, all may actually retail a bit under those prices of course.

The studio is aimed directly at the maschine pricing, and size is in between the mikro and original

SMH... MC Fly, why would I need attached external pads on a device that has a touch screen? I guess it provides added functionality, but I'd prefer jus a dope app on the iPad without the need for these pads. Now for $300 this external pad thingy better provide additional ins/outs, then maybe they're on to something. The MPC Studio does look dope tho!

Peace!

Up till now I've never felt much of a draw towards iPads, but the MPC Fly could change that...

But what would really sway me, is if it included a simple audio interface - just a stereo in and out. Then it could come to work with me (I run a secondhand record shop) for a bit of illicit sampling while I work. I know that everything has to be done to price, etc, but I think a very portable all-in-one device like that could really carve it's own niche in a competitive market place.

I agree man, and it folds up like a laptop, so you got the ipad and the pads in one lil unit, nice idea for sure.

Yeah, nice Idea - if it's not a fake mock-up–, but way too expensive for a more fun type of product like this, which I don't think is considered for the advanced beatmakers or pros. Cause first of all you need the iPad - which is very expensive imho, then you need the controller. Also, with iOS beeing such a closed system, where you actually can do almost nothing outside an app. Imagine trying this on an iPad - which I consider a typically workflow for making beats:

- Get your e-dig on… okay, you can use Mobile Safari for that…

- Find a Track on youtube maybe and grab that… Dang, Stop! No Flash Support on iPad

- Okay, let's find something in the blogosphere then, and DL an MP3… Dang, you'll need a Jailbreak to save the file.

- Opening, Editing and Saving a Section for chopping it up? Hmmmm... not happening.

All in all, I guess it's going to be a scenario like this: in-App Buys of pre-produced/compiled Drum Kits and stuff like that. For me not an Option. I didn't spend 15 years picking up this Artform to be limited to an industrialized Sound. Imagine like 10.000 Users all buying the same kits… horrible. That's what's killing it!

I think the MPC Fly has to be regarded as a lucrative by-product that only works well in conjunction with the MPC Ren or Studio, so that you can actually transfer files from the Computer to the iPad and vice versa via Syncing through iTunes. Just like in iMaschine. I would never buy this alone.

As far as the MPC Studio goes, this is actually the device that can be compared to Maschine. I like the looks of it, except that I think it's not as classy looking as the Maschine with it's plastic silver rotaries, which probably will wear off eventually. Or do you think this is some sort of aluminum for the case and the rotaries and such? 

I just got an ipad, it's way more versatile than people think. Some apps let you sample from itunes, youtube works on ipad via html5. Most also let you upload your own samples/kits as well.

ipad is crazy, not the cheapest, but if you already have one then the fly would be a nice little controller. I bought an lpk 25 to use with mine, in anticipation for getting the pads with this fly device, which also doubles as an ipad case :)

I find the comments toward ipad music making similar to when laptop/software first started getting popular, you had many hardware heads that dismissed it and didn't see it as "real" pro equipment.

I'm really impressed by the apps and what some of them can do, hopefully akai gets theirs right, right now, beatmaker 2 is the dopest.

I will also be using it as a sound module, some of the synths are pretty cool, so I'll midi it up to Maschine or whatever, and go to work.

It goes without saying that if you don't have an iPad already it is definitely gonna be far too expensive, but the reasons for getting one are definitely growing, between this and iOS Lemur alone thongs have taken another jump towards serious music making. I didn't go for iPad stuff straight away but I think it will become an established norm, just like laptop music making is for me and others now.
For me with the Fly, I really hope they've been clever in utilising the possibilities of the touch screen. 
For instance, assuming the screen shot is really the software, when you touch a pad I hope it doesn't just trigger the same sound as the corresponding pad, it would be better if touching a pad opened up a window showing the waveform for the sample on that pad with all the basic sample parameter controls and waveform editing

saintjoe said:

I just got an ipad, it's way more versatile than people think. Some apps let you sample from itunes, youtube works on ipad via html5. Most also let you upload your own samples/kits as well.

ipad is crazy, not the cheapest, but if you already have one then the fly would be a nice little controller. I bought an lpk 25 to use with mine, in anticipation for getting the pads with this fly device, which also doubles as an ipad case :)

I find the comments toward ipad music making similar to when laptop/software first started getting popular, you had many hardware heads that dismissed it and didn't see it as "real" pro equipment.

I'm really impressed by the apps and what some of them can do, hopefully akai gets theirs right, right now, beatmaker 2 is the dopest.

I will also be using it as a sound module, some of the synths are pretty cool, so I'll midi it up to Maschine or whatever, and go to work.

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